upgrade rates of +1

[dexionzzz]

I have many cases of friends trying to upgrade their gear to +1, but they failed. It's stated that +1 upgrade is 33% succes rate. i tried myself and upgraded 7x items in a row (12 coc, 3x aod, 3x elf belt, 3x judi belt) they all burned. Many players in Whysoserious and from other clans think that this upgrade rate may be bugged or it should be changed to higher rates. From my experience i realy don't think the upgrade rate is at 33% right now, i may be biased because i made a loss of 70gb, but buying items for 70 gb and not getting a +1 accesory is a bit too expensive. the 100% apex piece does work fine.

 

 

[L2Custody]

This server wants silver and silver, from the beginning they see everything money, they make a 5% merchant discount which never happened in USKO OR STEAM (ORIGINAL KNIGHT ONLINE) and many more things that favor more entrance to AESTERIS, now with items +1 It says 33% and this is 10%, to make item +1 ask for 50xcertificates ok but + 15gb APEX PIECE? Where they get an Apex Piece WTF, they are invented any item to give them more income, RICHAPEX, they change the name of the server so that only the rich play, I say it in general for all the players who did their best to collect 3 items for + 1 and now they ask for 50x certificates that is worth 15 gb and 15gb for an apex = 30gb for an item +1 = 100 USD / this really is an abuse, it takes away the desire to play.
L2 Custody King Orc

[dexionzzz]

1 minute ago, L2Custody said:

This server wants silver and silver, from the beginning they see everything money, they make a 5% merchant discount which never happened in USKO OR STEAM (ORIGINAL KNIGHT ONLINE) and many more things that favor more entrance to AESTERIS, now with items +1 It says 33% and this is 10%, to make item +1 ask for 50xcertificates ok but + 15gb APEX PIECE? Where they get an Apex Piece WTF, they are invented any item to give them more income, RICHAPEX, they change the name of the server so that only the rich play, I say it in general for all the players who did their best to collect 3 items for + 1 and now they ask for 50x certificates that is worth 15 gb and 15gb for an apex = 30gb for an item +1 = 100 USD / this really is an abuse, it takes away the desire to play.
L2 Custody King Orc

ofcourse man, 70 gbs are worth 200 usd that just went poof. I don't really care about the money i just feel scammed for not getting a +1 in exchange for 70 gbs worth of items. i could just buy lobo / lupus to get 50 certificates and 15 gb would cost me around 30 gb  for a +1 gear, okay then i would have a +1 gear but now it just feels like a scam. don't upgrade without the apex piece, because they won't give your items back.

[Eos]

1 hour ago, L2Custody said:

they make a 5% merchant discount which never happened in USKO OR STEAM (ORIGINAL KNIGHT ONLINE)

I don't know about SteamKO, but that's a thing on USKO since November/December of 2019.

About the rates, I want to let you know that 33% doesn't really mean that 1 out of 3 upgrades will be successful, because that 33% is being applied to each upgrade separately, it is all based on RNG (you can click here and learn what is RNG)
I can give you a simple example here, think about coin flipping. There are only two alternatives, so this means that you have 50% success chance no matter what, but this doesn't mean that the result is going to be different each time you flip the coin, you may get the same result even 100 times in a row.
Also, you should stop seeing everything as real money, no one forces you to pay for anything in order to own something, you can obtain everything by just playing the game.
After all, those aren't there for everyone to have, they're there for those with too much time on their hands to get some extra stats over others - where the effort is disproportionately large compared to the reward.

Thanks for your understanding. 

[L2Custody]

1 hour ago, Eos said:

1 hour ago, Eos said:

I don't know about SteamKO, but that's a thing on USKO since November/December of 2019.

About the rates, I want to let you know that 33% doesn't really mean that 1 out of 3 upgrades will be successful, because that 33% is being applied to each upgrade separately, it is all based on RNG (you can click here and learn what is RNG)
I can give you a simple example here, think about coin flipping. There are only two alternatives, so this means that you have 50% success chance no matter what, but this doesn't mean that the result is going to be different each time you flip the coin, you may get the same result even 100 times in a row.
Also, you should stop seeing everything as real money, no one forces you to pay for anything in order to own something, you can obtain everything by just playing the game.
After all, those aren't there for everyone to have, they're there for those with too much time on their hands to get some extra stats over others - where the effort is disproportionately large compared to the reward.

Thanks for your understanding. 

-You say that I see all real money? that's what the Admin is what he wants.
You say that
-Can I get everything in the game? Already when the server is going to crash, I will just arm myself and I will be able to enjoy the pk, after a year of farming?
-After all, those aren't there for everyone to have, they're there for those with too much time on their hands to get some extra stats over others - where the effort is disproportionately large compared to the reward ?? You say that's just for farm? You are wrong GM EOS, there they are giving more falsity to those who have money and can quickly buy gbs so they can get APEX CERTIFIED, and where are the Latinos? they are more farmer but they prefer to sell since this becomes very difficult for Latinos, it is very expensive to upgrade an item +1 (100 usd = 50XCERTIFICATE = 15GB + 15GB = 30GB = 100USD) now multiply 2xearring 2xring 1xbelt 1xneck = 600 usd to +1, I think that all farmers prefer to sell their gbs for real money and EYE THE ONE WHO BUYS IT AND MAKES THEIR ITEMS +1 FASTER THAN EVERYONE? SO THAT'S FARMER? DO YOU SPEND YOUR TIME ALL DAY PHARMACING TO HAVE A +1 ITEM? OR THE PURCHASE FROM THE FARMER FOR REAL MONEY SO THAT I CAN MAKE AN ITEMS +1 AND MAKE IT EASIER, REALLY THIS IS A SCAM AND THIS IS NOT JUST MY OPINION IF NOT ALL THE LATINOS WHO TELL ME THE SAME AND I KNOW TO SEVERAL LATINO CLANS WHO SUPPORTED ME IN KING ORC AND EVERYONE THINKS THE SAME. HARDCOREKO ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY CAN GET EVERYTHING EASY THAT'S WHY MOST LATINOS SELL THEIR ACCOUNTS AND THEIR ITEMS AND EVERY DAY THE PK IS LOW, THERE IS NO LONGER PEOPLE LIKE BEFORE.

 

[dexionzzz]

3 hours ago, L2Custody said:

 

this guy is just telling the truth. new coming players are now in a dilemma between opening their skills or getting apex piece which will slow them down. this new patch just has made the game unattractive for pk players. and like custody said, latinos and turkish players will never gear up because they know they will never be able to compete with usd babashoppers. the difference between +0 and +1 is huge!

[savagek]

On 7/17/2020 at 7:02 PM, Eos said:

I don't know about SteamKO, but that's a thing on USKO since November/December of 2019.

About the rates, I want to let you know that 33% doesn't really mean that 1 out of 3 upgrades will be successful, because that 33% is being applied to each upgrade separately, it is all based on RNG (you can click here and learn what is RNG)
I can give you a simple example here, think about coin flipping. There are only two alternatives, so this means that you have 50% success chance no matter what, but this doesn't mean that the result is going to be different each time you flip the coin, you may get the same result even 100 times in a row.
Also, you should stop seeing everything as real money, no one forces you to pay for anything in order to own something, you can obtain everything by just playing the game.
After all, those aren't there for everyone to have, they're there for those with too much time on their hands to get some extra stats over others - where the effort is disproportionately large compared to the reward.

Thanks for your understanding. 

USKO has a lower tax percent on merchants, and that tax goes back into the economy to the castle holders. 

[BroOk]

Actually I've agree with custody .

To start uniques +1 is not for every1 it supposed to be something just for few players or for those who have more time more money to spend( can't pretend a new player  got insta same items then active or baba player it's like this on every server).

Well yes request so too much certificates for skill and for upgrade those uniques it's very too much for everyone. I can confirm alot of Turkish players, Latinos players ( mages clans) already left apexko and sold everything by USD, even my clan members quiting right now and most of them sold it already.

Very soon this will be same story 3 years ago.  Same routine same players stay here then will pass few years and community will again cry to relaunch server... Still server is not dead but as far I see is diying day by day and all those patch don't really work at all.

Now have reply by GM's like eos doesn't really help and make community satisfy . Wish they do something against this situation going on.

apexko need active GM on game login every day any time to see how changes doing special where there's such a patchs.

Will see guys but just hope it's not too late to stop this trend all selling acc items character leaving server already very sad about it .

[HANGOVERRR]

BroOk, 4 saat önce yazdı:

Actually I've agree with custody .

To start uniques +1 is not for every1 it supposed to be something just for few players or for those who have more time more money to spend( can't pretend a new player  got insta same items then active or baba player it's like this on every server).

Well yes request so too much certificates for skill and for upgrade those uniques it's very too much for everyone. I can confirm alot of Turkish players, Latinos players ( mages clans) already left apexko and sold everything by USD, even my clan members quiting right now and most of them sold it already.

Very soon this will be same story 3 years ago.  Same routine same players stay here then will pass few years and community will again cry to relaunch server... Still server is not dead but as far I see is diying day by day and all those patch don't really work at all.

Now have reply by GM's like eos doesn't really help and make community satisfy . Wish they do something against this situation going on.

apexko need active GM on game login every day any time to see how changes doing special where there's such a patchs.

Will see guys but just hope it's not too late to stop this trend all selling acc items character leaving server already very sad about it .

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[savagek]

+1s were a fucking mess. I can't believe they got it so wrong and it has done so much damage to the server lmao.

The difference they make is fucking negligible anyway, it's not even much compared to other aspects of your characters, but people built them up so much and when they eventually came with this ridiculous system then it backfired hard. What a strange hill to die on. 

 

 

 

[dexionzzz]

4 hours ago, savagek said:

+1s were a fucking mess. I can't believe they got it so wrong and it has done so much damage to the server lmao.

The difference they make is fucking negligible anyway, it's not even much compared to other aspects of your characters, but people built them up so much and when they eventually came with this ridiculous system then it backfired hard. What a strange hill to die on. 

 

 

 

the best part was when they told us later on it will be cheaper to grt +1 ‘s. this just means they are scamming the babashoppers right now? if u’re going to do something, u should do it right. if you make it hard now, it has to stay that way! 

[Patrick]

L2Custody, 17.07.2020 - 22:23 yazdı:

 

The King speaks more realistic and reasonable than some staff. Hope ApexKO appoints you as a GM.

Edited July 26, 2020 by Patrick