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About Clan Grades & Cape [You shouldn't had reduced them]

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In my opinion you shouldn't had reduced the requirements for clans grades & cape costs.

3. Reduced the requirements for clans to advance grades
4. Reduced the cost for capes (except for the new Castellan capes)


If you would've kept the same mount requirements for grades & cape as before the reduced,
people would have work harder to be Royal Knights with a Long Cape...
Which mean only few clans could be 'Royal Knights' these-days.

This is the only good thing I could see happening from this reduced but even this u reduced.

@Aesteris@twostars

Greets,
Eden || Melody

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Fundamentally it had to change like this or someone leaving a clan would screw the clan over. The clan fund would be a lot less which wouldn't cover the old costs, so to recoup its losses it'd remove all of your stuff (clan grades, cape).

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So why not just reset all the clans and recovery their Nation Points back to the players?

BTW you should check if someone donated his Nation Points before the reduced and quitted the clan.
than when he recovery back his NP's [after the reduced] he won't get the same NP's he had before the reduced and only get 10% back as the reduced.

@Aesteris@twostars

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55 minutes ago, MeIody said:

So why not just reset all the clans and recovery their Nation Points back to the players?

BTW you should check if someone donated his Nation Points before the reduced and quitted the clan.
than when he recovery back his NP's [after the reduced] he won't get the same NP's he had before the reduced and only get 10% back as the reduced.

@Aesteris@twostars

I mean there's obviously more to it than that, but I was just making the point that it's not as simple as you make it out to be.
Besides, your suggestion ultimately accomplishes the same thing - clans lose their progress because they can no longer afford the costs. This is counter-intuitive to what we want.

Ultimately, reducing the requirements makes a lot more sense for a PK server, honestly. It fits nicely with where we want to head with more PK elements.
As Aesteris said in his posts, there are other things coming which will fill in that gap & make this make more sense.

PS: You also don't need to @mention us. Notifications are disabled for that kind've thing, otherwise it's abused with it posted in every thread.

59 minutes ago, TheMadOne said:

wait so we will lose our capes and grades right?

No. That's the point of the rescaling.

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I totally agree with OP. Not sure what is it that you guys are planning for the server, but since NP gain is back to original rate (50 per kill/dead) and NPs were reduced for everyone, it would totally give players (and clans all along) a goal to work towards.
Having to gain all those NPs back to rank up your clan grade, in my opinion, brings a new self satisfaction feeling of achievement as well as a sort of in game status for those who put in the time and effort to rank up.

You need to speak openly with the community when you say something like it would be counter-intuitive with the server future plans, because right now it just seem an arbitrary change, with no real reason behind it.

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algith, we need more clearly about everything.

still i also agree with the reduction nps special if those changes will bring players back to server. i hope also that these changes willl nt have adverse effects for server.have to wait and watch.

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I get that you don't want the progression made easier, but I'm confused. You guys actually want to lose all of your clan's progress? Because that seems to be what you're advocating here.

As far as I can tell, what Melody's wanting us to do. Reset clan's NP/refund to players in reduced form while keeping existing clan costs. Which means you still have the NP... but you have to start working on your clan all over again, because that NP doesn't cover the costs anymore for your capes or clan ranks.

As it is right now, it's a little clunky but it's mostly just rescaled so no progression has actually been lost.

7 hours ago, Nath said:

Having to gain all those NPs back to rank up your clan grade, in my opinion, brings a new self satisfaction feeling of achievement as well as a sort of in game status for those who put in the time and effort to rank up.

This in particular makes it seem to be that's not what you want (if it's just taken away from you after you put in the time and effort to rank in the first place...), but that's what Melody's suggestion achieves. ??

I feel like the only reason people want this is because they feel like they missed out on it the first time, but in the long run there will be no difference to before, and if circumstances caused us to do this again (I mean it won't, because it was a major result of NP event abuse a while ago, but -) would you really be advocating the same thing or would you be complaining that you put in the effort for nothing?

Because that's what it seems like to me. People just want their fleeting chance to feel like they're ahead of people, just like on a relaunch. Then it won't matter anymore after the first... day or so, because those people tend to be the ones to jump ship.

So I don't really understand this reasoning.

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Well, I can only speak for myself, but yes, I'd like that. The rest of the community can express as well, but I totally support this. Like I said it would be fun to have this as top clan privileges.

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Just now, Nath said:

Well, I can only speak for myself, but yes, I'd like that. The rest of the community can express as well, but I totally support this. Like I said it would be fun to have this as top clan privileges.

I edited my post to clarify my thought process there. Are you really still for that?

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To be honest it was so easy to rank up with that NP event all year long that you're probably right, it feels like you missed the whole process of ranking up entirely. Also people could buy characters with millions of NPs before, so they were already up there to begin with.

11 hours ago, twostars said:

I feel like the only reason people want this is because they feel like they missed out on it the first time, but in the long run there will be no difference to before, and if circumstances caused us to do this again (I mean it won't, because it was a major result of NP event abuse a while ago, but -)

No, I wouldn't like to have to do this again, but that's a really bad scenario.
If you ever get in the need of doing something like this once again, I might as well jump ship myself. So the fact such idea (even though you're saying you it won't happen) is there in the table, is kind of scary.

Which brings me back to my original post, you may have plans for the server that we're not aware of, it would be nice if you could share them with the community in time (or at least as long as changes go) so we have a better grasp of what's all this being aimed to. Maybe it could prevent creating topics such as this in advance.

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58 minutes ago, Nath said:

you may have plans for the server that we're not aware of, it would be nice if you could share them with the community in time (or at least as long as changes go) so we have a better grasp of what's all this being aimed to. Maybe it could prevent creating topics such as this in advance.

wondering the same thing. kinda afraid to ranking again on apexko , id not like to see the same thing later.

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14 hours ago, BroOk said:

wondering the same thing. kinda afraid to ranking again on apexko , id not like to see the same thing later.

Tell me, how many ranks did you fall down? The answer: none.

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