server need something new!

[ImmortalOne]

4 hours ago, KissOfNeo said:

exactly  but when ppl can get +3 items they want  and not loose lots of gbs and kc on   can make a difference  and maybe add some unique apex item in game for personal use...

If your not happy with it all and dont want to being or even try to being ppl in   alot would happly welcome you to leave .

This thread was to have idea to help   not have ones like only you seam to have is negative and want 0 changes do all you can  to make sure nothing changes or have invites for new ppl to join and feel that they have a fighting chance

Same to you

If you cant get gear you can leave and nobody will cry

I didnt say i dont wanna changes but giving free items not bring new players

[KissOfNeo]

6 hours ago, ImmortalOne said:

Same to you

If you cant get gear you can leave and nobody will cry

I didnt say i dont wanna changes but giving free items not bring new players

Last response to the waste of space you  have become.   I want nothing for free     I personally need 1 +3 item that im buying at +3 when find a seller for it   simple dont want to make it myself even tho its kinda easy and cheep .  

Making things a little easier for New players helps me  no way what so ever  unless they gave out free Krowaz +11 knowing that is just he dumbest thing and wont happen...

Everything you have posted has  has ended with It wont help   new players wont come ..  This started with ways to help new players and  were has any part shown where your here to help   only pretend your smart  and your not   and not once have u added anything at all to thread to help  just try to brag you know better and run it down 

BB now have fun   Over with idiot like you ?    go complain else where

[Marshmallow]

8 hours ago, IIIAmJohnWick said:

 

 

@Brook, @Marshmallow.

No ! going fll pk server will destroy the player base because all the players that have farmed and worked for their items so hard for will leave. THIS will drop the player base population. What are you expecting of new players to come? WHERE were they when we introduced upgrade of rosetta armor from +8 to +9 rev and we upgraded uniques from +1 to +2 ? Tell me who came? what are you expecting when going fll pk mode? this will bring players? are you insane? do you want this server to commit suicide ? because that is what you are saying.

Server just needs a tweak to farming/upgrade to stimulate economy more. It is already good with friday's and UTC events which is very popular and going strong. On another note holy armor has been stopped which is good. we dont need to hit 200 dmg less. we NEED to introduce undy sc/ redpot/ ibex and crisis and duration pot. THIS WILL BRING GOOD CHANGE TO SERVER.

This is the best private server out there being the longest one going since december 2015. I would even say its better than steamko and the player base rivals usko servers at peak times in terms of activity.

The player base here is slowly growing. we just need to be DIRECT with the problem and answer. Keep it simple.

Economy? -> UTC / some tweak to current merchanting

Pk - > Growing stronger each and every day especially UTC Times

Playerbase increase? - > NEED TO SHOW OFF SERVER SOME WAY. HOW ? Twitch Stream/ Youtube pk video/Youtube Live Stream -> THIS WILL BRING PLAYERS. NOT CHANGING STARTER GEAR.

## AGAIN I REPEAT THIS SO ITS VERY CLEAR. GOING FLL ITEM SUNDRIES PK SERVER WILL CAUSE SERVER SUICIDE. NEVER EVER COMMIT TO THIS IDEA ##

Where were you when people upgraded Raptor+11 and then it became worthless? We've been trying to fill the gap between new players and old ones over the years by introducing beginner items but guess what?  They're shit compared to krowaz+11/Holy+11 and you say it's good that holy armor can't be farmed anymore? So what about those who farmed them already? shouldn't be deleted to make it fair for everyone? Or should be farmable ASAP? If you really think going PK will be the end of us well they could test it and see. Just 2 days a week go full PK and see the difference. and most PU items should belong to PU store to support developers with donations.

By full PK I mean NPCs to sell krowaz items+11, accessories+3 and make some essential PU items like scrolls purchasable from Sundries and make coins farming much harder so players would have to either donate for PU items or farm coins for hours to buy KC in game or something from Sundries. That's it. We'll have farming alongside a fair PK server. Players would still make merchants in moradon but it'd be KC/PU items for coins which is now harder to obtain in game. We could introduce new mining, fishing, AFK farming, new farming areas to farm coins. Some feature of the game could end up dead like Anvil, Chaotic generator but we could rework them. How about obtaining premium scrolls( like undying scrols) or cospre items through exchanging felankor/ultima/apex/krowaz chests or basic scrols/ibex/crisis pots from Juraid gems. Even could add gold coins, silver and gold bars to Chaotic Generator/mining/fishing/CZ farming.

So with going full PK I don't mean a boring server. We'll have to farm for coins and some other stuff but there won't be a significant gap between players in terms of items and with current stun/ice rates every new player could use Juraid accessories at +3. We still could have UTC farming too for those new items. And Bifrost / personal quest weapons upgradeable to +14 Maybe that way Anvil will have a purpose too.

 

In conclusion ( just a few ideas):

- Add Krowaz items+11 for free.

- Add accessories+3 for free except ROF and UTC ones

- Keep UTC and Draki farming and Bifrost +14 upgrading as it is

- Wipe coins from server to start a harder coin farming

- introduce new farming for coins like AFK/Genie/mining/fishing/CZ farming

- Ultima/felankor/Apex/Krowaz chests should be reworked

 

Edited September 9, 2018 by Marshmallow

[KissOfNeo]

Do need to find something fast  Meet alot Of ppl today quitting  tired of the  8 orcs vs 1 or  they run when not have priest  or spam minor heals ..

Ive tried pk on portu warrior  sin  and  can only find  5 to 8 vs 1 unless they have debuff and heals then they might vs 3 v 1 or run and town 

 

GMs ideas  plz   before more decide you have given up on making  it better for all ...

The Players can only support so much and having really 0 feed back and returns isnt a good thing

[ImmortalOne]

9 hours ago, KissOfNeo said:

Last response to the waste of space you  have become.   I want nothing for free     I personally need 1 +3 item that im buying at +3 when find a seller for it   simple dont want to make it myself even tho its kinda easy and cheep .  

Making things a little easier for New players helps me  no way what so ever  unless they gave out free Krowaz +11 knowing that is just he dumbest thing and wont happen...

Everything you have posted has  has ended with It wont help   new players wont come ..  This started with ways to help new players and  were has any part shown where your here to help   only pretend your smart  and your not   and not once have u added anything at all to thread to help  just try to brag you know better and run it down 

BB now have fun   Over with idiot like you ?    go complain else where

You are an idiot that think free items will bring new players to this server even you playing here for over 2 years and dont see what happen in the past 

They have changed start gear 3-4 times and i dont see any new players after update just old players who quit long time ago logged to game for 2-3 days and quit again

 

Go ahead and give krowaz11 and uniqes+3 and you will see how this server become worst because current players with full gear will get mad and quit

 

[YouGotPwndByMyAss]

6 minutes ago, ImmortalOne said:

You are an idiot that think free items will bring new players to this server even you playing here for over 2 years and dont see what happen in the past 

They have changed start gear 3-4 times and i dont see any new players after update just old players who quit long time ago logged to game for 2-3 days and quit again

 

Go ahead and give krowaz11 and uniqes+3 and you will see how this server become worst because current players with full gear will get mad and quit

 

Go outside.

[IIIAmJohnWick]

Changing to fll pk server won't do anything. What happened when we introduced free rosetta 8 ? what happened when we upgraded rental uniques from +1 to +2 ? what happened when we upgraded rental item from rosetta 8 to 9 reb ? Going fll pk server wont do anything except make the loyal playerbase who have farmed the entire time leave....

you want more players? the answer is EASY and HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GEAR DISPENSER.

YOU JUST NEED TO SHOW OFF SERVER Either with TWITCH STREAM OR YOUTUBE.

Take for instance, yesterday, Garez was streaming on youtube live and people in the chat asked about the server and where to download and the basic guide. Because of that we had 3-4 BRAND NEW PLAYERS come to our lovely server and I still see them today at CSW !

Think logically and for the best of this server. It is a god honest gem where pk is able to rival usko/steamko quality. Please don't post bullshit ideas out the ass just because you think its what YOU want. Think of the server and the playerbase as a whole. Anyways, what @Marshmallow and @KissOfNeo suggest is poorly planned and would benefit them and their specific kurian class. Everyone would be dot kurian in server and this would be DOT KO. Forget mages, archers, sins , warriors. This would become the age of Kurians. FUCK THAT.

DELETE KURIANS ALREADY.

[ImmortalOne]

agree with john

+restart nps 

[KissOfNeo]

3 hours ago, IIIAmJohnWick said:

Changing to fll pk server won't do anything. What happened when we introduced free rosetta 8 ? what happened when we upgraded rental uniques from +1 to +2 ? what happened when we upgraded rental item from rosetta 8 to 9 reb ? Going fll pk server wont do anything except make the loyal playerbase who have farmed the entire time leave....

you want more players? the answer is EASY and HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GEAR DISPENSER.

YOU JUST NEED TO SHOW OFF SERVER Either with TWITCH STREAM OR YOUTUBE.

Take for instance, yesterday, Garez was streaming on youtube live and people in the chat asked about the server and where to download and the basic guide. Because of that we had 3-4 BRAND NEW PLAYERS come to our lovely server and I still see them today at CSW !

Think logically and for the best of this server. It is a god honest gem where pk is able to rival usko/steamko quality. Please don't post bullshit ideas out the ass just because you think its what YOU want. Think of the server and the playerbase as a whole. Anyways, what @Marshmallow and @KissOfNeo suggest is poorly planned and would benefit them and their specific kurian class. Everyone would be dot kurian in server and this would be DOT KO. Forget mages, archers, sins , warriors. This would become the age of Kurians. FUCK THAT.

DELETE KURIANS ALREADY.

everything i have suggested  does noting for me unless they up pads and  so far DF  rosetta  krowaz  none at all will help me   i do not need any +3 items unless i make a new char and im not  weapon  starter ones have none that i use and i have my portu priest warrior and rogue items ones i want and need..

Everything  i have said can help NEW PLAYERS  like maybe remove the +2 burn on jewely .   Not once have i suggested to make free +11 krowaz or anything ..  I think adding a new weapon for each class  an APEX weapon  that can be upgraded and carry the same ap as a baal wiri  windforce so on for all classes  so they can personlise there chars .

Not for free but something to aim for  for everyone and maybe a chance to bring extra life to server..

But as you and ya mate seam   read what you want comment on  things you have made up your self and watch more leave as time goes till atross and roites are the full pk server

[ImmortalOne]

30 minutes ago, KissOfNeo said:

everything i have suggested  does noting for me unless they up pads and  so far DF  rosetta  krowaz  none at all will help me   i do not need any +3 items unless i make a new char and im not  weapon  starter ones have none that i use and i have my portu priest warrior and rogue items ones i want and need..

Everything  i have said can help NEW PLAYERS  like maybe remove the +2 burn on jewely .   Not once have i suggested to make free +11 krowaz or anything ..  I think adding a new weapon for each class  an APEX weapon  that can be upgraded and carry the same ap as a baal wiri  windforce so on for all classes  so they can personlise there chars .

Not for free but something to aim for  for everyone and maybe a chance to bring extra life to server..

But as you and ya mate seam   read what you want comment on  things you have made up your self and watch more leave as time goes till atross and roites are the full pk server

current start gear is pretty strong 

if you have 83/5 and achieve for defence such as most speedy + full cospre you are ready for pk

there is no big diff between start gear or full gear

there is only diff in rof's and roc/rol but i dont think any1 want rofs+3 for free

i'd change achieve system and exp to get 83/5 cuz it take years if you're not playing 24/7 and not join every event

Edited September 9, 2018 by ImmortalOne

[IIIAmJohnWick]

@kissofneo. I agree with you that a change is necessary. but I do not believe it has to do with items or gear dispenser. gear dispenser is good enough for pk. It is a matter of making pk more interesting and just introducing new way of farming to make economy go up and really up. As of right now UTC is really big which is good but we need more stuff than just UTC. This is matter of economy not items.

[KissOfNeo]

Keep it good  and clean guys   its   here to chat and suggest for things making it better for new players and old players. 

No need for abuse  insults at all .  It dont matter what happens with classes  there is always going to be 1 class everyone dont like  and some ppl think are to op.

I hear it all the time but if i was so OP with my char  i wouldn't do in so many vs   as well as the wins i get there are 55% to 45% win loss 1 v 1 

The idea is to make it more personal exciting  something that may excite   someone new to join and stay not join farm a week loose item to a burn and quit  or just feel so over powered and get nothing for it..

 

So really if have nothing real to suggest then make a new flame topic and out of  this one as it wasnt started by  us  just someone wanting a fair fun game and more input to help it along  

Thanks

[Insomniac]

you gotta look at it from a wider prospective, its an older server, and I barely see many people with starter gear in pk unless they have a full party, simply put most who join just dont think they can last in CZ without getting better items. Every single person who plays a game, wants to win to have an edge on another player. Some are lazy and would rather spend money to get that edge, whilst others are happy farming it up. I dont think adding free items will do anything, you have to make people work for it. PK events are always a good way to get everyone into CZ, for example find the GM or protect the VIP, I remember we managed to create a command in the server that would make a certain character larger with more AP/AC/HP and the first nation to kill that VIP would get rewards. As I suggested before, Np's for items would work as well, but not +1/2/3 only +0 acc's and +8 weapons of choice, before you say oh but you can already get that, I believe people would be more inclined to PK if there was a guaranteed reward, having a random chance for items on those medals makes the economy what it is, which is stale and coin orientated. Anyway yeah, I reckon with a little more action in PK via events and creating a reason for people to pk other than fun would make it so national points become a currency and people will work hard to gain that currency.

[Built4CZ]

On 9/8/2018 at 12:22 PM, Insomniac said:

So I am a relatively new (started last week) player. I kind of have to agree, there should be alternative ways to farm stuff, like its a very stale kind of economy in town. I dont want easier ways to farm money, but easier ways to get items...for example having some mobs drop certain weapons randomly, e.g. low chance on atross/riotes to drop a krowaz item. Saying to farm destroys pk...well no it doesnt, because pking doesnt really gear people up and most if not all that farm are gearing up and need better items (me). That and the balance either swings one way or another in the bowl. Its either a landslide toward orcs or a landslide toward human. If there were better rewards for Np's, for example 50k np's gets you a base chaos weapon +11 rev BUT that chaos wep has -50ac -10ap and no bonus stats...you then have to pay more np's to unlock it and make that weapon perfect. Things like that create more pk...as well as giving more for people to farm toward. If the main goal in apex is farm gold then pk will slowly die out. thats my two cents anyway!   you gotta look at it from a wider prospective, its an older server, and I barely see many people with starter gear in pk unless they have a full party, simply put most who join just dont think they can last in CZ without getting better items. Every single person who plays a game, wants to win to have an edge on another player. Some are lazy and would rather spend money to get that edge, whilst others are happy farming it up. I dont think adding free items will do anything, you have to make people work for it. PK events are always a good way to get everyone into CZ, for example find the GM or protect the VIP, I remember we managed to create a command in the server that would make a certain character larger with more AP/AC/HP and the first nation to kill that VIP would get rewards. As I suggested before, Np's for items would work as well, but not +1/2/3 only +0 acc's and +8 weapons of choice, before you say oh but you can already get that, I believe people would be more inclined to PK if there was a guaranteed reward, having a random chance for items on those medals makes the economy what it is, which is stale and coin orientated. Anyway yeah, I reckon with a little more action in PK via events and creating a reason for people to pk other than fun would make it so national points become a currency and people will work hard to gain that currency.

i do agree mikey  and i agree with some other people also  

[BroOk]

imo random comments bring random ideas always

PS: bring attaker priest back np.