FIX WARRIOR DMG WHAT IS GOING ON HERE ???????

[aRmal]

Wtf with that low warrior dmg ??

I dont understand the gms are not seen that the server going to be mage archer and dot kurian server?

Warriors are not doing any dmg here 

Fix it, alot of ppls here  thinking to quit/class chainge to archers or mages

This server  have no  diffrence from here to any other turkish server that play 83 cup 

 

[IIIAmJohnWick]

I agree there needs to be damage capacity increase on server. It is unbalanced. The defense of players nowadays are so high they can easily evade 1-2 hits with debuff. Furthermore, you guys need to increase anvil rates to +10 (21 reb) the damage capacity is way too low on server.

[aRmal]

Its crazy 2 flame mages putting down 2 novas and I'm half hp down its crazy....

And then archers and dot kurians coming and finishing the job...

The pk is only archers and mages now warrior cant do anything

Gms here doing a great job by destroying this server

 

[TheSupplier]

31 minutes ago, aRmal said:

Fix it, alot of ppls here  thinking to quit/class chainge to archers or mages

Feel the same way

playing against all of the archers and mages is next to impossible

Edited April 17, 2018 by TheSupplier

[YouGotPwndByMyAss]

The mage damage is very good now. But no need for to change this. Just stupid to nerf classes and at same time buff other class. First watch the buff how it goes if still a class is op then nerf but that wasn’t the case. Mage buff (good) Sin buff (good) warrior nerf (bad) and this all at same time.. Cz is full archers we do not like this @twostars also do not touch mages let them stay like this it’s good now to see mages around again and hopefully more in future. Done on my phone hopefully understand. ?

[IIIAmJohnWick]

There has to be a change made to damage capabilities of all classes on the server. It is best through increasing Anvil Rates. it has been capped at +11 reb for too long.

[MON5TER]

There are 2 certainties in life, death and people constantly complaining about class/nation balance.

[Aesteris]

Increasing upgrade cap is a no-go, armors will be receiving the same increase. Warriors losing 15 STR bonus equates to what, 200-300AP if even that while you’ve already got 5k+? Please tell me more about how this’ll affect your damage massively.

[IIIAmJohnWick]

48 minutes ago, Aesteris said:

Increasing upgrade cap is a no-go, armors will be receiving the same increase. Warriors losing 15 STR bonus equates to what, 200-300AP if even that while you’ve already got 5k+? Please tell me more about how this’ll affect your damage massively.

@Aesteris. The thing is even if warriors are possessing 5k+ ap at the moment this is all in relevant of the context that the player base on ApexKO since the rise of the holy armor patch has had a significant increase in AC. Overall on average warriors hit from 900-1300 (If target is duffed). This is pale numbers in comparison to USKO conditions where they would spam 1.5-2k on targets unduffed. This is the primary reason for their complaint. Furthermore on this is that it has caused the play style to change in cz to become primarily  8 memebered party vs 8 memebered party based. This has caused a lot of distress among many players including myself as small party based pk or parties of 2 or 3 members are no longer enough to take down opponents quick enough and evade massive parties efficiently.

 

I'm curious as to why the reason is behind not increasing the upgrade cap? I have spoken to a few community members and they have agreed that an increase in the upgrade rates even if as little as up to 13 REB would be great for the server and extremely stimulating for the economy. Surely, now UTC weapons are upgradeable to 11 REB but I do not believe that when players will possess this, atleast in my opinion, will contribute significant enhancement in damage capacity to balance the addition of holy armors.

 

Let's say you do increase anvil rates to 21 reb (+10). Would it really be that hurtful to the server if it only applied to weapons and we kept dragon shells such as dragon scale/mythrils/rons to be upgraded to 21 reb (+10), kept krowaz max at +11 reb and Holy armor max at +5 reb. Please explain why not, as I am curious. Furthermore under what conditions would you consider anvil rate increase to be viable and necessary.

Edited April 18, 2018 by IIIAmJohnWick

[Aesteris]

I’m saying it’s technically impossible to distinguish between non-unique (/unique reverse) armors and weapons, they all use the same generic upgrade entries defining feasibility, rate, and materials required.

We will however increase the upgrade rate for older unique weapons (FT, Juraid, and Bifrost) to beyond +11.

Although I don’t know whether what you’re claiming is true (with respect to 1.5-2k damage spam from warriors on undebuffed targets), that seems really excessive to me. Nothing actually changed for warriors, yea, there’s more AC but AC, similar to resistances, curves off after a certain point and simply becomes worth less. All in all, from where I’m standing right now, you guys just want your easy mode warriors w/ underpowered other classes back, which I doubt will happen.

[IIIAmJohnWick]

1 hour ago, Aesteris said:

I’m saying it’s technically impossible to distinguish between non-unique (/unique reverse) armors and weapons, they all use the same generic upgrade entries defining feasibility, rate, and materials required.

We will however increase the upgrade rate for older unique weapons (FT, Juraid, and Bifrost) to beyond +11.

Although I don’t know whether what you’re claiming is true (with respect to 1.5-2k damage spam from warriors on undebuffed targets), that seems really excessive to me. Nothing actually changed for warriors, yea, there’s more AC but AC, similar to resistances, curves off after a certain point and simply becomes worth less. All in all, from where I’m standing right now, you guys just want your easy mode warriors w/ underpowered other classes back, which I doubt will happen.

That's reasonable. Thank you for your response. I am happy that the upgrade rates will be increased for older unique weapons.

[YouGotPwndByMyAss]

8 hours ago, Aesteris said:

Increasing upgrade cap is a no-go, armors will be receiving the same increase. Warriors losing 15 STR bonus equates to what, 200-300AP if even that while you’ve already got 5k+? Please tell me more about how this’ll affect your damage massively.

So make armors stay at +11 and weapons go to +21 ??? Also in usko people walking around with krowaz+8 and a wirinom&raums+21 just saying

Yes this and all the other nerfs together is a big affect on your damage. And 5K+ wow that's so much in usko people walking with 7k and lower defense then in apex.

7 hours ago, Aesteris said:

Although I don’t know whether what you’re claiming is true (with respect to 1.5-2k damage spam from warriors on undebuffed targets), that seems really excessive to me. Nothing actually changed for warriors yea, there’s more AC but AC, similar to resistances, curves off after a certain point and simply becomes worth less. All in all, from where I’m standing right now, you guys just want your easy mode warriors w/ underpowered other classes back, which I doubt will happen.

There is just no fucking way i'm hitting 1.5-2k damage on people without debuff lol! I'm hitting a starter sin maybe 1200 which has literally 0 ITEM.

underpowered other classes?  If you do not nerf the mages ever again and they are spamming on me 1200 while i use Gab's. And  do not nerf this rogue eskrima maybe buff his cp then rogue will be good again aswell specially later with the moons+11 nothing will happen lol! And it's just fun to see how people complain about warriors while it has 0 stun 0 slow well it has shockstun but then no descent lol. It has no blink or lightfeet no stealth can't save other party members and it can't even solo pk! And all it have is a descent on ur party member which is easily to ignore for other classes lol! Warrior is not a threat like a kurian is. The reason people complain is because 0 brain they don't know how to play this game like ImmortalOne which die 24/7 doesn't watch around himself so he die to any class lol! and doesn't swap uniques doesn't use shield also sold his cure pots for internet connection. (#Not using it)

 

PS: Making older weapons upgradeable to +21 not gonna change shit. And this again will make item value lose and more players to quit this server. If you open +21 make it for all weapons and do not make it for armors ! Maybe shells and that's it!

 

[Aesteris]

9 minutes ago, YouGotPwndByMyAss said:

So make armors stay at +11 and weapons go to +21 ??? Also in usko people walking around with krowaz+8 and a wirinom&raums+21 just saying

Yes this and all the other nerfs together is a big affect on your damage. And 5K+ wow that's so much in usko people walking with 7k and lower defense then in apex.

There is just no fucking way i'm hitting 1.5-2k damage on people without debuff lol! I'm hitting a starter sin maybe 1200 which has literally 0 ITEM.

underpowered other classes?  If you do not nerf the mages ever again and they are spamming on me 1200 while i use Gab's. And  do not nerf this rogue eskrima maybe buff his cp then rogue will be good again aswell specially later with the moons+11 nothing will happen lol! And it's just fun to see how people complain about warriors while it has 0 stun 0 slow well it has shockstun but then no descent lol. It has no blink or lightfeet no stealth can't save other party members and it can't even solo pk! And all it have is a descent on ur party member which is easily to ignore for other classes lol! Warrior is not a threat like a kurian is. The reason people complain is because 0 brain they don't know how to play this game like ImmortalOne which die 24/7 doesn't watch around himself so he die to any class lol! and doesn't swap uniques doesn't use shield also sold his cure pots for internet connection. (#Not using it)

 

PS: Making older weapons upgradeable to +21 not gonna change shit. And this again will make item value lose and more players to quit this server. If you open +21 make it for all weapons and do not make it for armors ! Maybe shells and that's it!

 

Reading is hard is all I've got to say really.

[YouGotPwndByMyAss]

33 minutes ago, Aesteris said:

Reading is hard is all I've got to say really.

yeye so funny >.<

 

1: There is no way that warriors hit people 1.5-2k Unduffed. (I hit 1200 on a full starter sin without any item)

2: You say 5000 AP is much but in Usko there is 7000 AP and armors with lower defense then in Usko but 2000 ap more.

3: All the nerfs together on warrior class is a big nerf.

4: You say 5000 AP is much but in Usko there is 7000 AP and armors with lower defense then in Usko but 2000 ap more.

5: Don't nerf Mages ever again because they are very strong now and that's good.

6: Do not nerf sins ever again because Eskrima buff & Moonlights in the server is great! And maybe try to buff CP

7: You say 5000 AP is much but in Usko there is 7000 AP and armors with lower defense then in Usko but 2000 ap more.

8: The reason people complain about warriors is because they suck at this game.

9: Just make the weapons go for +21 and not the armors so we deal some more damage. (Or add red pots and u can let armors go aswell but make sure not the krowaz and holy knights)

 

If you do not understand it like this then something is wrong.

If you make joke on me then i can do that for you aswell. We do not forget the past u asked me and my clan about Chaos Curses and that u said all u achieved in Knight Online was level 59 in Usko.

And you put Holy Knight Armors in the server while u thought it had exactly the same defense as Krowaz. That's something what killed me.

 

PS: I will upload a video next saturday of the attackpower & Items show in Hellsgarem on very low items.

Edited April 18, 2018 by YouGotPwndByMyAss

[ItzMad]

@Aesteris
Don't buff warrior. We dont wanna see WarriorKO anymore. You also know if you buff warrior, all mages will change class or leave server then we will slayt harunga.
And i dont understand why only geared warriors open topic for buff warrior? Who opened topic he have %100 +11 krowaz set, +11 wiri, full +3 uniq, full cospre, full achivements lol

[YouGotPwndByMyAss]

49 minutes ago, ItzMad said:

@Aesteris
Don't buff warrior. We dont wanna see WarriorKO anymore. You also know if you buff warrior, all mages will change class or leave server then we will slayt harunga.
And i dont understand why only geared warriors open topic for buff warrior? Who opened topic he have %100 +11 krowaz set, +11 wiri, full +3 uniq, full cospre, full achivements lol

No need buff warrior just put 15 STR back all know aoe low damage short range full fail hits. And right now we already slaying harunga's.

Because all low gear warriors doesn't play this class they are playing Archers why should they play something that's useless? And the fully gear warriors have used alot of $ or much time on getting the items for expensive prices and they got screwed up like this. Then i'm specially talking about

@BabySh0ckeR @Humburger @aRmal@Allanoon @ComplexSinz @BACONSTRIPS

This people for example did alot of farm and use $

Edited April 18, 2018 by YouGotPwndByMyAss

[Allanoon]

YouGotPwndByMyAss, 5 dakika önce yazdı:

No need buff warrior just put 15 STR back all know aoe low damage short range full fail hits. And right now we already slaying harunga's.

Because all low gear warriors doesn't play this class they are playing Archers why should they play something that's useless? And the fully gear warriors have used alot of $ or much time on getting the items for expensive prices and they got screwed up like this. Then i'm specially talking about

@BabySh0ckeR @Humburger @aRmal@Allanoon @ComplexSinz @BACONSTRIPS

This people for example did alot of farm and use $

 u can sure about that cris i farm more then 2x ur accoun in this server, yes u right when i come back i buy only kro 11 wiri 11 but  but after that  i farm allot kc and sel it make fll items all in same acc

Edited April 18, 2018 by Allanoon

[Nath]

This have got to be a huge joke. Fix warrior damage? I play warrior, daily, not even close to be full geared and I feel perfectly fine. People complaining about warriors here are just mad that they can't 2 hit players with their baba gear anymore.

What did they do? Removed 15 str from battle cry, my god, biggest nerf in KO history /quit.

I mean, I just can't, not even for a second put on these guys shoes. How they can they think warriors are an under-powered class, even in their current status (mages/archers being super annoying). Nuff said.

[ItzMad]

I just wonder it this guy can write any comment without edit lol

[Allanoon]

YouGotPwndByMyAss, 9 dakika önce yazdı:

 

And right now we already slaying harunga's.

 

 

@BabySh0ckeR@Humburger@aRmal@Allanoon@ComplexSinz@BACONSTRIPS

 

as u say ur slaying harunga's im farming with genie   no need too be on pc  

[NakedRussian]

nerf cry echo dmg nerf aoe dmg nerf aoe range nerf battle cry...no wonder there are no melee clans in this server because admins just ruin any class in this server now pk is full archers  because other classes are just useless oh ya and u have some mages and even if u buff them x10 more no one will be back to this old server because u always manage to ruin everything .. and no im not with any gear at all im just with starter and i play this server almost 2 year and its sad to see how good it was a while ago and so bad this times..maybe one time admins will listen and open +21reb and add redpot to make this server a little bit better

[YouGotPwndByMyAss]

1 hour ago, Nath said:

This have got to be a huge joke. Fix warrior damage? I play warrior, daily, not even close to be full geared and I feel perfectly fine. People complaining about warriors here are just mad that they can't 2 hit players with their baba gear anymore.

What did they do? Removed 15 str from battle cry, my god, biggest nerf in KO history /quit.

I mean, I just can't, not even for a second put on these guys shoes. How they can they think warriors are an under-powered class, even in their current status (mages/archers being super annoying). Nuff said.

YOU ARE THE BIGGEST JOKE IN THIS SERVER XD IN USKO YOU GOT 2 SHOT IN USKO 24/7 THAT'S WHY YOU WANT TO BE A TALOS AND STILL U DIE 24/7 ALSO 5VS8 HELLO BLACKHOWLING.

 

They nerf cry echo -10% battle cry - 15 str Aoe range very short compared with usko also damage alot lower + full fail hits 20-30 etc.

 

Mages i said it's good dumbass i want Warrior,Sin,Mage server not archer dot kurian and talosko like you retard brain NUFF SAID. You're just a nobody without any game knowledge.

 

Also u say im baba but i farmed/pked 80% of my gear and i'm still not full yet i don't have rofs+3 and also people in ur clan are complaining about the warrior damage so bb.

 

Edited April 18, 2018 by YouGotPwndByMyAss

[IIIAmJohnWick]

@Aesteris. Will you consider the addition of red pot as a compromise? I speak in the best interest of the player community of Apexko.

Reasonably speaking it's only about 5-10% increase in attack power which I'm sure you won't see as significant. Furthermore it is already in play for defense nation in invasion and available through spirit of logos in colony zone for a certain period of time. If it makes the player base happy and will not pose a significant negative impact against you, why not add it ?

 

Out of curiosity, I know you intend to increase anvil rates for older weapons. May I ask up to what +__ Reb? In the current state of the situation, I would consider +21 reb to be ideal.

Edited April 18, 2018 by IIIAmJohnWick

[aRmal]

So basically you're telling us that you want to make this Apexko archer server?@Aesteris

No point to keep play here as a warrior/sins will be much better to class change to Kurian or archer in order to have a fair chance to fight back in CZ 

 

[Nath]

1 hour ago, IIIAmJohnWick said:

@Aesteris. Will you consider the addition of red pot as a compromise? I speak in the best interest of the player community of Apexko.

Why you keep pushing your own agenda John? Last time I checked you even made a Topic-poll about it and the community said no. So how do you speak in the best interest of us (the community)? Red pot won't do any good. They do need to buff up assassins in some way though, I do agree 100% on that, but this is not the right topic for such discussion, let's stick to the subject.

@YouGotPwndByMyAss I can only speak for myself, whether a clannie is also asking for this non-sense or not,  such argument is totally irrelevant. I stand, there's nothing utterly wrong in the current warrior class as to make it an un-playable class, none.

And If according to you I die 24/7 in CZ, it should be in my best interest to also be asking for this "buff", yet I don't, the class it's more than fine, other classes are struggling a lot more than warriors in this server.

PS. Don't put words in my mouth, how would I want a kurian/archer server when I play and enjoy using a warrior? Have some common sense.