[Events]

[Melody]

Hello there,

So basically we all know that the PK activity in Coloy Zone is only during Ultima & Felankor.
And during the weekends just in RLB Wars, Lunar WARS & Castle Siege War.

I think that for once and good, you should organised and make the Events more interesting...

Ultima:
So right now we've Ultima spawns 2 times a day which we all know when they spawn...
Which it solved the problem with Ultima not been killed, also because it more rewarded.

Felankor:
We've Felankor which it spawn randomly everyday betweens 8 hours to 10 hours, I guess?..
Which mean basically the people that actually killed first Felankor they will try their best to be there for the next respawn
because they need the money ('farm' or want the 'chest') then they will log to most active side and kill Felankor ASAP.
1) It's not hard to kill Felankor, basically just few rogues and few mages can kill it.
2) They care about 'Felankor Chest' which is more rewarded than 'Ultima Chest' Also the DROP from Felankor is more rewarded than Ultima DROP.
3) Right now, Felankor respawns a little bit more than twice a day.

Caslte Siege WAR:
CSW is the most enjoyable & favorite Event I ever enjoyed.
At least it was for me, till I lost a little bit from the excitement of the GAME.
A part to Clans Tournament which I had played on USKO Servers.

So CSW is more rewarded than ever in my opinion more than the 5K Apex Points reward.
Because every single clan can partcipate and it gives opportunity to every single clan to win CSW and reward 2 Days of a Set Holy Knight Amors+11Reverse..

Broder Defense War:
So basically BDW isn't that interesting anymore, but what I about to come with might be sound a little bit crazy for many but look at the positive side.

With that been said.
My suggestions:

1) About Ultima & Felankor:
Add a time to Felankor make something like Ultima, 30mins before Ultima and Then Ultima.
Or First Ultima and Than Felankor since Felankor is easier to kill and more rewarded.. So better to keep the cherry to the end.
So the PK will last at least for 1 hour, twice a day with a Good Activity.
It makes it a lot more interesting at least for my part of view.

2) About CSW:
You can just add another CSW a week, like Sunday & Wednesday or Wedensday & Saturday.
You can make a poll for that when it comes to that.
A. CSW become a little bit activer in the past few weeks because of the reward..
B. Since the reward last just for 2 days and not been so usefull because of no Events during weekdays [WARS or any other Events].

3) About BDW:
Right now BDW based on lucky you've, if did you get in or not. in the first place :P.
And if you are lucky enough to have even a single priest in your party not to speak about 2 priests or a cuber, in that case :P.

A. In my opinion you should make BDW Nation VS Nation. of course to take in mind the exactly mount of players of each Nation.
So basically PPL will have the opportunity to make their own Party. and be prepared before it even starts.

What we could ask for more? Small MAP, Nation VS Nation LOTS of PK!.

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* I didn't had much time to open that topic, so I open with no time.
but there is a lot more to improve, but let's start with those suggestions.

* My request from the community please KEEP OUT anything that not related to this subjects [Events , Activity in CZ].
I'm usually not making topics like never, so please respect my request.

Greets,
Eden || Melody.

Edited March 27, 2018 by Melody

[Melody]

@Aesteris @twostars @Vivaldi

If I see you will take my suggestions seriously, they're more to come for sure. I'll explain later on.

Edited March 27, 2018 by Melody

[BroOk]

18 minutes ago, Melody said:

1) About Ultima & Felankor:
Add a time to Felankor make something like Ultima, 30mins before Ultima and Then Ultima.
Or First Ultima and Than Felankor since Felankor is easier to kill and more rewarded.. So better to keep the cherry to the end.
So the PK will last at least for 1 hour, twice a day with a Good Activity.
It makes it a lot more interesting at least for my part of view.

2) About CSW:
You can just add another CSW a week, like Sunday & Wednesday or Wedensday & Saturday.
You can make a poll for that when it comes to that.
A. CSW become a little bit activer in the past few weeks because of the reward..
B. Since the reward last just for 2 days and not been so usefull because of no Events during weekdays [WARS or any other Events].

3) About BDW:
Right now BDW based on lucky you've, if did you get in or not. in the first place :P.
And if you are lucky enough to have even a single priest in your party not to speak about 2 priests or a cuber, in that case :P.

A. In my opinion you should make BDW Nation VS Nation. of course to take in mind the exactly mount of players of each Nation.
So basically PPL will have the opportunity to make their own Party. and be prepared before it even starts.

What we could ask for more? Small MAP, Nation VS Nation LOTS of PK!.
 

i really agree with all those ideas .

Felo ultima respawning together twice by day its a good try imo at least as u said 1 - 2hours max pk. not bad .

Csw twice by week consider reward its also a good idea. ill like to remind GMS not every1 is able to play in weekends. i saw during the week on bosses more activity then csw sometimes.

BDW. very good point to make nation vs nation BDW like an small war thats sound good for pk and also will mix good old gear players with newcomers ofc. very nice idea.

 

[Razordagawd]

1. I agree with having a timed Felankor. Right now it's too random and it often sits there for hours on end.

2. CSW... I think it's twice a week (or used to be) in official? Not a lot of people would be able to attend it on wednesday though. At least way lower amount than Sundays (it would also mean more free holy knight sets +11!)

3. BDW, I don't agree with this idea. The random factor is what allows BDW to be the way it is. If you allowed people to queue with their clannies we would have 3 easy to identify problems:

• Full 8 man stacks like yours (mage clan) would literally STEAMROLL any opposition.
• The map isn't big enough.
• Not everyone will be organized, and small groups will suffer for it.

Instead I have this idea, to shake bdw's foundation. What if we had multiple maps? The original bdw map (monu destruction), the current bdw map (flag carry) and the 8v8 arena map (the one seen in steamko streams). Map variety with different objectives would be fun!

Lastly, we could remove the whole nation limitation. Allowing matchmaking to organize parties with combined people from the same nation at random. That way less people are left out, and exciting matchups can happen.

 

There's obviously a lot of room for improvement but at the end of the day these are just ideas

Edited March 27, 2018 by Razordagawd

[IIIAmJohnWick]

These are all good ideas, but we need to see input from the administrations/GM's end. This is just one of many topics.

[twostars]

On 27/03/2018 at 12:57 PM, Razordagawd said:

Lastly, we could remove the whole nation limitation. Allowing matchmaking to organize parties with combined people from the same nation at random. That way less people are left out, and exciting matchups can happen.

This is actually something I've been wanting to do for a while. It's just really messy dealing with it on the server's side, potential for unforeseen side-effects is insane.

Since it's strictly a nation vs nation event (client-side attack logic enforces this, otherwise you won't be able to even attack them), aside from trying to support party vs party neutrality logic outside of the designated arena... the next best thing is to mask them on the server's side as the correct nation.

But that ultimately means enabling support for nation/race/class overrides, otherwise even the server won't understand the neutrality here. And even if it did, because say we implement this special case, masking it on the client's end is another story entirely.

We cannot change the player's own nation (that's why we need the disconnect on nation transfers, class transfers, etc.). Which means we need to mask everyone else.

Since we're optimising how this information is sent out, we would need to scrap that and localise it on a player-by-player basis.
And then, after we've mapped them to the opposing nation for neutrality purposes, there will be bugs with armour that's not designed for the other nation's race we've localised it to -- so we'll probably have to force them to (visually) use a specific set which is for sure supported.

Every step of the way it's a mess.

In theory we could cover the map with party arena tiles (if we're not already using tiles for this map). We never really did because we never got around to writing tools for that, but now that we've got ingame support for that it might be worth looking into. We'd still need to modify the client for this, but this at least is a lot less of a potential disaster.

The only problem here is it's not really as flexible a solution, as it will need to have tiles designated for it. If events need tiles to indicate important areas of the map, then we're kind've screwed -- a tile can only be designated for one purpose, sadly.

Edit: Additionally, the client has a text overlay for that stating it's a party arena. We'd need to modify the client to not display that for zones other than Moradon... meaning at this point we might as well be editing in our custom neutrality logic.

[twostars]

The other thing with this is since they're nation vs nation events, we have notices like "El Morad has won" etc. When we mix this up, this makes no sense.

We'd probably have to do something like change this to red team / blue team (and hope even that isn't confusing, because nations are already represented by those colours...!!), and then to clarify which team is which, give them appropriate armour for visuals and whatnot.
And theeeeeeen there's the client also stating the scores by *nation*, which would need to be adjusted.

Ugh. When you go down that rabbit hole there's no coming back.

[IIIAmJohnWick]

7 minutes ago, twostars said:

The other thing with this is since they're nation vs nation events, we have notices like "El Morad has won" etc. When we mix this up, this makes no sense.

We'd probably have to do something like change this to red team / blue team (and hope even that isn't confusing, because nations are already represented by those colours...!!), and then to clarify which team is which, give them appropriate armour for visuals and whatnot.
And theeeeeeen there's the client also stating the scores by *nation*, which would need to be adjusted.

Ugh. When you go down that rabbit hole there's no coming back.

It would make for a an amazing event and attract a lot of newcomers. A unique event just only to ApexKO. We all appreciate the hard work you and @Aesteris provide us.

[BulletClub]

2 hours ago, IIIAmJohnWick said:

It would make for a an amazing event and attract a lot of newcomers. A unique event just only to ApexKO. We all appreciate the hard work you and @Aesteris provide us.

wick just wanted a response to his suggestions. now hes lovey dovey again <3

love ya bud ^^