lilorc6 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I personally think these should not exist.. at all. They screw up PK. Get a 50 DD talia and a sin will barely scratch you. Same thing applies to any other class really, 50 wep def is just too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocu Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 thats might be reason why i hit 1300 to warrior but sometimes 600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackaq Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Built4CZ Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I personally think these should not exist.. at all. They screw up PK. Get a 50 DD talia and a sin will barely scratch you. Same thing applies to any other class really, 50 wep def is just too much. agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnen Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 As a priest and someone who played BP/paper mage a lot talias is a part of the game and helps paper characters to move around CZ without fear. You guys are thinking in the vs thing way too much. Against 20 people what's the point of using a talia? you'll get hit by 3 diff. classes at the same time lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilorc6 Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 I'm not even thinking vs wise... I'm thinking CZ wise. 50 weapon defense is simply too much lol. It'll be even worse when fully geared people decide to slap on a talia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebast44 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 well, if they add acid pots to sundries, talias are fine IMO, since you cannot repair them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luster Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 ye remove it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapislazuli Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Talias give you lower ac compared to high tier armors, you lose out on set bonuses, stats, damage and are only effective against one of the 8+ weapon / elemental varieties. The tradeoffs are there, and then you remember that acid potions exist! To me, the satisfaction of destroying someone's precious talia skin exceeds the frustration of hitting very low damage on a target occasionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david4244 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 To me, the satisfaction of destroying someone's precious talia skin exceeds the frustration of hitting very low damage on a target occasionally. Feeling ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocu Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Talias give you lower ac compared to high tier armors, you lose out on set bonuses, stats, damage and are only effective against one of the 8+ weapon / elemental varieties. The tradeoffs are there, and then you remember that acid potions exist! To me, the satisfaction of destroying someone's precious talia skin exceeds the frustration of hitting very low damage on a target occasionally. Yeah man realy ? did u played usko ? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Built4CZ Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I'm not even thinking vs wise... I'm thinking CZ wise. 50 weapon defense is simply too much lol. It'll be even worse when fully geared people decide to slap on a talia. +1 well said rick mister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilorc6 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Lapis, go test it... its not how ur picturing lol. Look man, I don't even play melee, I main support mage and even I'm saying Talia is too much. I'm telling you right now people will be abusing Talia armors so much. Just picture towards the start of the server with everyone in weak gear. If people use talia armors, nobody will touch them. Lets not forget that duff doesn't even effect weapon defense either. Besides, weapon def always has and always will > regular AC (specifically DD). Anyway, don't believe me? Go get the talias and look how big of a difference it makes. If talia armor will remain, I'll most certainly be using it because I know how broken it is. Theres a reason almost all the PSKO's remove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotti Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 maybe not remove em but lower the amount they give to like 20-25 if its possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapislazuli Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Lapis, go test it... its not how ur picturing lol. Look man, I don't even play melee, I main support mage and even I'm saying Talia is too much. I'm telling you right now people will be abusing Talia armors so much. Just picture towards the start of the server with everyone in weak gear. If people use talia armors, nobody will touch them. Lets not forget that duff doesn't even effect weapon defense either. Besides, weapon def always has and always will > regular AC (specifically DD). Anyway, don't believe me? Go get the talias and look how big of a difference it makes. If talia armor will remain, I'll most certainly be using it because I know how broken it is. Theres a reason almost all the PSKO's remove it. You make it sound like you could choose which anti-defense you want at the moment of crafting lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilorc6 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Thats true you can't, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebast44 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Lapis, go test it... its not how ur picturing lol. Look man, I don't even play melee, I main support mage and even I'm saying Talia is too much. I'm telling you right now people will be abusing Talia armors so much. Just picture towards the start of the server with everyone in weak gear. If people use talia armors, nobody will touch them. Lets not forget that duff doesn't even effect weapon defense either. Besides, weapon def always has and always will > regular AC (specifically DD). Anyway, don't believe me? Go get the talias and look how big of a difference it makes. If talia armor will remain, I'll most certainly be using it because I know how broken it is. Theres a reason almost all the PSKO's remove it. well, they remove it cause they are too lazy to give a damn about fixing stuff, we have ppl who care about their server here, not just about money. It took them so much time to make what they did, fixing 1 more thing isnt much for them anymore.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonBlack Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 ☠ just because i could lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnen Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 It's not like you can go and buy 2000 talias from NPC, you actually have to farm for it, servers with talia make items needed for crafting so scarce that they are highly valuable. I don't see a problem with that. Effort = reward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Acid pots=bb talia. You cant repair it aswell,so after a day of pking it will be broken i dont see an issue,as long as they dont manage to find a bug to repair it all the time its fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilorc6 Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 I already talked with Aesteris about it, he plans on making it harder to get. With 5 to 10 million added on to the current requirements, or simply a silver bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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