TheGreatEvil Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I'll go first.. I think Kurian are kind of overpowered, and Imma point out several point why i'm saying that They hit me as strong as warriors. They can stun me for 6 seconds if they use all their stunning skills (witch is nearly 80-90% successful rate) They can dot damage me with several skills They can divide my armor by around 50% if I'm not mistaken They can heal themself They can turn it another form to make all their healing skills/objects become double They can have up to 1.3k AC (not sure about that one) My opinion is based on the fact that i'm a mage tho. So I'd like to know the opinion of other classes too. I am well aware of the fact that i'm not sure to be a tanking class, but still, i find them quite overpower. Regards, Frank No hate on this topic please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucho Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 They were nerfed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatEvil Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 They were nerfed. Oh I wasn't aware of it. I actually just pked with a kurian, their really useful in a party, but not having one makes your party so much weaker then another party that has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackaq Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 when were they nerfed exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziz Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 They were nerfed. When? OT : Don't forget about the AOE Stun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matchlock Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 dont forget the mage light stun how op it is rogue stelth skills Cures blinds priests spamming heals shields Debuffs subsides and much more None of them on Kurian have decent ones or can use In end it events out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziz Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 dont forget the mage light stun how op it is rogue stelth skills Cures blinds priests spamming heals shields Debuffs subsides and much more None of them on Kurian have decent ones or can use In end it events out can someone translate that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackaq Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 buff kurians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudaciousNoob Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Buff mages, nerf sins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackaq Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 ^ need that 3k nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziz Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 ^ need that 3k nova can u stay on topic omg ip ban him already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyHunter Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 http://forum.apexko.com/topic/1563-attempt-to-kill-a-kurian/ don't even bother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatEvil Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 Indeed, stay on topic please. No fight needed on that kind of topic. Indeed, all classes have their own advantage. Mages used for stun/tp Sins for a lot of damage quickly Warrior for a constant damage/tanking Priest for supporting the party My point is, the kurian can almost all do all of thoses, exept for curing and tping his party... PS. My opinion about mage doesnt matter but here it is, if anyone says mages are weak and they needed to be buffed, sorry but you must be kind of knowless about the mage class. Mage are used to be either supporting the party while having defense(int shield), or doing high damage while being in a party. I maxed out a 1.9k hit using a nova on another mage, and around 1.45k hit on warrior using flame novas. Indeed, if mages want to do high damage, they wont have high hp... what you think mage should be..? Some kind of warrior that has the power of using novas while having 7-8k health and 1.2k+ ac? hell nahhhh... Mages are strong the way they are, you just need to know how to play with them. I soloed priest with my attacking mage just so ppl knows about it... Now back on topic, like I said, I just want to hear everyone's opinion about kurian regarding their own classes, bout mage, their the most anoying class, cause they can literally fuck you up in half a second without you able to do anything. And I can't even imagine priest getting pulled and stunned for a good 5 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudaciousNoob Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Buff kurians and mages please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undying Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 what is thaught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziz Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 aviv stop trolling ty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pscroll Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 HOLYSHIT almost 5 months away and this is still an issue, damit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Buff kurians and mages please+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalOne Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Lr mage need buff aswell. 600 dmg is too low and stun is wery bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostLegends Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Fu•k kurian Fu•k mage. Delete Both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatEvil Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 I don't even have any problem with kurians anymore. they used to be really anoying, but when you learn to handle with them, there is no problem. btw, buffing LR mages? lel, you must be joking, then the server will turn into a lightning mage server, fire mage will become useless. no thanks. And on top of that, telling that stun rate is bad? I solo int priest when i'm lightning mage just because of the cancel rate, so you must just be a bad comboer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalOne Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 I don't even have any problem with kurians anymore. they used to be really anoying, but when you learn to handle with them, there is no problem. btw, buffing LR mages? lel, you must be joking, then the server will turn into a lightning mage server, fire mage will become useless. no thanks. And on top of that, telling that stun rate is bad? I solo int priest when i'm lightning mage just because of the cancel rate, so you must just be a bad comboer... hmmm lr cancel rate was not nerfed? lr mage hit 600? wanna try if im bad btw? :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 buff kurians, buff mages, nerf rogues, delete warriors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xCalaMiTY Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I'll go first.. I think Kurian are kind of overpowered, and Imma point out several point why i'm saying that 1 They hit me as strong as warriors. 2 They can stun me for 6 seconds if they use all their stunning skills (witch is nearly 80-90% successful rate) 3 They can dot damage me with several skills 4 They can divide my armor by around 50% if I'm not mistaken 5 They can heal themself 6 They can turn it another form to make all their healing skills/objects become double 7 They can have up to 1.3k AC (not sure about that one) 1 all about the way the guy uses his vp points ( hit hard skills wont let u use the others ) 2 we will never be able to use both stunning skills continously duo to cd and vp points 3 only devil kurians can do that ( and ye some of em still hitting so much to be honest ) 4 ye exactly 50% def same as movement speed ( just an skill as rest of classes have their own ) 5 only devil kurians can do that 6 regarding to point 5, only devil kurians can do that 7 1450 with starter items, same as my support mage for example. not a big deal few things to let u know : -Our unique skill who doesnt consume vp points uses to fail 50% and hit less than 600 dmg - using our stunning/debuffing skills dont let us atack properly ( talking again about vp points ) - about devils kurians, once they loose their devil form they are the easier target in cz even with his "op" heals ( it has a cd of 10 min or so if aint wrong, a sin with cp can destroy that devil form quicly ) as u mentioned u playing mage, every class can get u fast as hell ( flame and mp always been the class easier to take down ), btw i've to admit some of devil kurians still hitting for 2.7k per second even being nerfed on last patch. peace frankiboy¡¡ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatEvil Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hmm, I went kurian duo yesterday, and we managed to go into a full party, and take out some players before dying. Here's a few things I've figured out about the class. - There is always a way to slow and debuff someone, I tested it several time, and all rogues get easily destroyed. (pull + divide armor) - I havnt messed with the poison kurian build, someone how, i tried it quickly, and found out i was hitting really low, and just gave up since i think we need dual hanguk sword to make it worth using. - Out of 2 hours of duo pk with a kurian, i pretty much stayed into Devil transformation for 1h55, i didn't even knew how I was losing my devil when i was losing it.. - I also found out that into devil transformation, the pots were supose to heal double, aka 1440 HP per pot, somehow, i was healing myself for 2.1k every pot. - Like I've seen someone above stating, a kurian cannot use a debuff, and go Overpower mode, it doesnt work since they loose all their Stamina points when debuffing and pulling someone. - Kurian alone in a party can be really good. but somehow, if a full party of kurian would appear, using teamspeak and piling, using thunderstorm, it would be chaos in cz, 1 pull and divide armor, and some other just 1 hit KO him. It would be pretty much similar to a mage party, but the stun rate would be 100% due to thunderstruck and Rush - They have really low Resistance, witch makes them easy target to mages, but due to their devil, they take only 50% of the damage, witch is like 500 ish. To end, I actually like playing the class, but it doesn't change the fact that I still think it has too many things they can do at once. debuff, boost themself, heal as twice as good and much more. Regards, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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