Before 83 patch

[BroOk]

Before 83 patch come out fix few things to make more balance game :

1. Make Mobs in bowl Like " bach, duke , lobo , lycaon etc " more random respawn time; theres always same people waiting same bosses every day which means no items for random bowl players.

2. Make Like cant be possible to relog with same IP from human to orc or otherwise, why? theres too much unbalance when 1 opposite side became stronger, Farmers just re log their another account just to keep farming bowl or keep camping bosses; do like at least few hours request every time u relog different NATION .

3. Skills for newcomers. If u give free skills when 83 cap comes it will make 0 merchant for opal crystal crudes, and for all those Magic powder,lycaon ,lobo etc people were farming all those months. thats not fair . if people want items before 83 patch they can always log now and start to farm. still what can be done is instead to open all skills from 60 to 80 free, you can just give like 70 skill free open then people must still go farm and re work for the rest skills. dont do same mistake like old times giving all free and ruining economy on game. more new people means more farmers more gbs incoming, not all free and easy.

4.Eslant bosses its still a joke : theres no point to camp eslant bosses, once again this the easy example how easy can be obtain " even if never drops almost " 1 of the best items in game like IN. and also here, theres always the same people killing all those bosses, not giving no1 else a chance to obtain or at least to hit 1 time thoses bosses. Most of those players before was just camping those items to sell them for real money. Like apexko staff you guys should do everything possible to give those people 0 chance to obtain easy items; one solution can be like when boss is  about to respawn to let all nation know there will be in like 1 hour time respwan , at least there will be chance for every1 in same way, doest matter how many u are; second option deleted all those bosses from eslant and spam them always on moradon for both side with the announcement; 3rd but not fair for new comers , its spam them in CZ for pvp but guess this can be done later on. Zombie farm must be dead, no need those zombies pc waiting bosses always.

5.PK chest?mm ookey , what i supposed to do with 4x packs hp/ac each on invetory all time  and 5x redpots + when im playing as priest?? i mean buying all time bags to put them there its kinda anoying :S make them able to be storable already , no1 will make account seal for sell with scrolls or red pots? instead dark mithril materials are good like that. 

 

[KrepiN]

1.2.3.4.5 I agree with brook

 

[Baluka]

1. Agree

2. Agree (if 1. is applied though then this is pointless i think.)

3. Disagree with this one. I think all skill should be free, that way the only thing that would be useless is magic jewel powder (which is around 3m now) and the daily quest in cz (harunga / undying. This can be easily reworked though for like 1 or 2m each quest or some other items, so it's not a problem). On the other hand lobo / lycaon / lupus pendant and tail of shaula / lesath and fang of bakirra will be still valuable just like now (20-30m each) because people will still need red pot / 2k hp / 350 ac scroll / tattoo etc. So open all skill for everyone, it won't hurt the economy and the newcomers will like it aswell. It will be enough for them to farm their armors / weapons / uniques. 

4. I don't really care about eslant bosses so no comment on this one.

5. Items from pk chest is storable since last patch.  "Consumables obtained from the PK chests are now account-bound, and may thus be stored freely." If you have red pot that you can't put in the inn then just go 255 int BP and use all the red pot you have and kill everyone.

 

Edited September 24, 2020 by Baluka

[david4244]

34 minutes ago, Baluka said:

1. Agree

2. Agree (if 1. is applied though then this is pointless i think.)

3. Disagree with this one. I think all skill should be free, that way the only thing that would be useless is magic jewel powder (which is around 3m now) and the daily quest in cz (harunga / undying. This can be easily reworked though for like 1 or 2m each quest or some other items, so it's not a problem). On the other hand lobo / lycaon / lupus pendant and tail of shaula / lesath and fang of bakirra will be still valuable just like now (20-30m each) because people will still need red pot / 2k hp / 350 ac scroll / tattoo etc. So open all skill for everyone, it won't hurt the economy and the newcomers will like it aswell. It will be enough for them to farm their armors / weapons / uniques. 

4. I don't really care about eslant bosses so no comment on this one.

5. Items from pk chest is storable since last patch.  "Consumables obtained from the PK chests are now account-bound, and may thus be stored freely." If you have red pot that you can't put in the inn then just go 255 int BP and use all the red pot you have and kill everyone.

 

 

This. And mainly agree with Balu's 3rd point.    Lobo-lupus-lycaon-shaula-lesath-bakirra's value won't change as people want big scrolls, tatoos, duration pots, red pots, so they will always farm certificates / these items.  At this point skills doesn't have much value anyway, it's just a pain in the ass for newcomers to open them and while they are farming skills, they can't farm items, getting bored and quitted. So ye i prefer opening every skill aswell, and simply rework the daily / weekly harunga / undying quests to give like 3m or smth like that (same value as crystals have now)

 

 

Oh and as for 5.:  You can store the mentioned items now, the old ones still unstoreable, but oh well, use them first, and the meantime you can put the new 2k scs etc to inn already.

Edited September 24, 2020 by david4244

[HANGOVERRR]

1 magic jewel powders already trash

2 u can still buy scrolls with lupus pendant

3 dont afraid from new players they will be ungeared not like old apex rosetta set rev9 jewels+2 weapons etc

Edited September 24, 2020 by HANGOVERRR

[g1r0]

I have the dislike of telling about the bad experience we had... long 2 weeks ago my team and me try join again in apexko soo we think in give a chance.

wasting like 2 days in get lvl cap 80 but after that we got stuck, the skills requerimients was ridiculous for a benginer users, the basic quest for things are in cz in mid of the bowl wtf??? really?? we lost 2 weeks in try to join in the BF event and for nothing...
 
the farm spots are horrible on human side EMC ppl got monopoliced farm spots.... soo lets try farm in cz hahahahaha really its impossible farm anithing in cz for benginer users, assasins orcs keep raid all spots and kill benginers just with 1 hit.... ZZZzzz sooo lets try farm in slant, what could be worse?? xD the drop rate in slant is horrible take hours for get a few drops valued in 2-3m.... so we try buy a Prem with many characters ohh sorpriseee the fvcking rate of DC prem ''with flashh'' is the same sh1t as not having. We no longer know what could be worse?

Soo lets try make a suicide party and try get some quest in ronarkland and maybe find pk.... of course we get raped for macro users, x3 range warrior atack and for more fun 80% HP requeriment for /town comand hahahahahahaha i dont know who was the one with such a great idea, I can't imagine the hours and hours they spent thinking it could be a good decision.

once again the magic class was oppressed, for a change.... well that's not new to administrators, they enjoy suppressing magic classes and improving mele classes.

and to end up disappointing us of the server, we were robbed by the anvil and its stupid rates...

we start with 17 players.... now we are 3 but we r tired wasting days and nothing change, we stoped to play and only wait for 83 patch hoping it brings something good for new users.

unfortunately there are things that never changed and that will be the cause to fail again in the same way, apparently administrators do not learn from their mistakes.

''a private server cannot be more difficult than an official one.'' think about that. @twostars @Heung @Aesteris

[BroOk]

2 hours ago, g1r0 said:

I have the dislike of telling about the bad experience we had... long 2 weeks ago my team and me try join again in apexko soo we think in give a chance.

wasting like 2 days in get lvl cap 80 but after that we got stuck, the skills requerimients was ridiculous for a benginer users, the basic quest for things are in cz in mid of the bowl wtf??? really?? we lost 2 weeks in try to join in the BF event and for nothing...
 
the farm spots are horrible on human side EMC ppl got monopoliced farm spots.... soo lets try farm in cz hahahahaha really its impossible farm anithing in cz for benginer users, assasins orcs keep raid all spots and kill benginers just with 1 hit.... ZZZzzz sooo lets try farm in slant, what could be worse?? xD the drop rate in slant is horrible take hours for get a few drops valued in 2-3m.... so we try buy a Prem with many characters ohh sorpriseee the fvcking rate of DC prem ''with flashh'' is the same sh1t as not having. We no longer know what could be worse?

Soo lets try make a suicide party and try get some quest in ronarkland and maybe find pk.... of course we get raped for macro users, x3 range warrior atack and for more fun 80% HP requeriment for /town comand hahahahahahaha i dont know who was the one with such a great idea, I can't imagine the hours and hours they spent thinking it could be a good decision.

once again the magic class was oppressed, for a change.... well that's not new to administrators, they enjoy suppressing magic classes and improving mele classes.

and to end up disappointing us of the server, we were robbed by the anvil and its stupid rates...

we start with 17 players.... now we are 3 but we r tired wasting days and nothing change, we stoped to play and only wait for 83 patch hoping it brings something good for new users.

unfortunately there are things that never changed and that will be the cause to fail again in the same way, apparently administrators do not learn from their mistakes.

''a private server cannot be more difficult than an official one.'' think about that. @twostars @Heung @Aesteris

sad to hear that, 

could u also give some suggest what willl help ur mates then? to start again ? thats topic we talk about

[g1r0]

what about:
- put daily quest  in eslant for skills and recipes

- improve drop rates in slant or improve the rewards of existing quests

- put CR in emc / eslant

- put Gates of BF or Krowaz in town of ronark land

- give starter weapon and armors

- improve rate of Monster stone drop ( this option can be usefull for new users, old's help alot )

- anvil rates sucks, just fix it

- put the ''Normal'' /town requerimient 50%HP obviously, this should not have much discussion

I am not sure if my team would try again, in fact the game does not provide comforts to new users, on the contrary they use them as cannon fodder to entertain the usual ones ...

If administrators do not try to attract new users, they are always doomed to see the server go down faster than they expect, and that is true even if they don't like it.

[david4244]

The rates outside cz are nerfed for a reason. It was better in the past and what did it cause?

Multiclient ppl farming spots 24/7 with genie on and taking everything --> creating mass items / gbs , flooding the servers fucking up the market. And even with that the "average new player couldn't do shit there, cuz the goldfarmers took every spot". Increasing the rates would cause the same shit.

 

However i am up for some CR outside cz or daily quests but gotta make sure it can't abused, like 1 mage doing the cr and tping his other 7 chars , milking off the cr (It even happend / happening at cz farm Crs even now.)  So if they ever do it, rewards should be carefully thought out.

 

 

As for starter items, the renting system is there, giving +7 shell set , decent weapons , old uniques outside rings and belts are cheap sse / pe / eme are like 15m. Wp / ep are not that expensive aswell, after that mythril / df set +6 can be achieves quite fast also and that's basicly top tier item. Sure there are some +7 set, but even among the top NP holders, ALOT running around in +6 set.  so it's kinda easily to gear up to an acceptable gear. 

 

But once again, skills are definitely annoying and especially for sins / mages it's hard to play w/o everything opened so it's time to make skills free imo and rework the daily harunga / undying quests to give some money instead of crystals.

[BroOk]

Still many things need to be fixed. Just hope they make all those zombie farm palces worse and worse, special ESLANT BOSSES . still nowdays same person same people with more then 1 pc camping like tards bosses there. 

[Aesteris]

Thank you for these, and all replies with insights!

We'll be incorporating some of this feedback into the level 83 expansion.

[Zimpapke]

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