Sickan Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 At this stage on the server its more worth going genie treant than trying to conquer bowl farm manually for few hours with a full party. Can we make CZ great again? Mythril Fragments on Bifrost monsters in bowl with decent rates to make it worth staying there manually and defending from opposite nation. Please put up some daily PK quest with like 300 Kills to force people to do some pk, reward does not have to be something fancy, maybe just a silver bar? We need to do something about this PK activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 If they force players to farm more in bowl, it will only make (already) geared players stronger. And it will make the difference/distance between weak/beginner and geared/babashoppers MORE. There are 2 times CSW/Lunar War in a week (with many BDW, JR and PK races). They added +1 unique and mythril expansion to the game and many teams've already left. You can easily notice that. They should be more carefull if they decided to expand new events to the game in this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david4244 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 They should definitely do smth. And the 1st dude aint saying to put everything to bowl. But smth useful actual manual farm should be happening. Atm everything is kinda sux for manual farming especially for a party. So the only way to farm is genieing, which ppl does. And no, ppl didn't quit cuz of the item difference, hardly any1 have +1 or +8. Getting a +6 new set is not that hard and with that u have top gear. Ppl quitted cuz +1 was implemented weirdly and overpriced, and cuz you can't progress w/o genie and more character. There is almost nothing to farm actively, manually, with only 1 char or for parties. So the game does barely reward the players whom actually play. It rewards the multi client genie macroers. So ye, smth useful at bowl would be appreciated, also what was mentioned at the other topic. Disabling genie at cz would also help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickan Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Patrick said: If they force players to farm more in bowl, it will only make (already) geared players stronger. And it will make the difference/distance between weak/beginner and geared/babashoppers MORE. There are 2 times CSW/Lunar War in a week (with many BDW, JR and PK races). They added +1 unique and mythril expansion to the game and many teams've already left. You can easily notice that. They should be more carefull if they decided to expand new events to the game in this stage. I understand your point but why should players that put in effort and time to manual farm and defend themself not get rewarded for it? Why is it that the genie afk farm is the most rewarding with multiple PCs?. Server have been online for roughly 3 months and there is yet to be farm out there for organized 8 man parties. The best farm have always been solo/duo at Treant/Ancient/SG/Beast-Blood seeker. This in my opinion along with the rest of the clan makes it 0 reason to go for any clan activity at all and just split up on different spots far away from any pk activity so that you can just genie AFK. The bowl farm is there to allow clans that want to take it a little bit more serious actually go for that manual farm/PK in bowl which will boost the PK if 8 man parties starts to farm inside bowl. People are mainly leaving the server because CZ is dead from PK 85% of the day, has nothing to do with item difference. Edited July 30, 2020 by Sickan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 david4244, 4 dakika önce yazdı: ... And no, ppl didn't quit cuz of the item difference, hardly any1 have +1 or +8. Getting a +6 new set is not that hard and with that u have top gear. Ppl quitted cuz +1 was implemented weirdly and overpriced, and cuz you can't progress w/o genie and more character. There is almost nothing to farm actively, manually, with only 1 char or for parties. So the game does barely reward the players whom actually play. It rewards the multi client genie macroers. ... I think you are playing with a team and many PCs in the game. Because if you play with a pc and out of a team, this "getting a +6 new set" is very hard. Also, +0 and +1 uniques do not make much differences. If you have +0 unique set and old ske then you can easily get fun in the pk. So why would ppl leave from the game? Genie farm parties were famous before +1 uniques and mythril expansion but it didn't effect population this much. Because there was a limit that you can farm items by many genie/macro PCs. You were still resisting agfainst this geared genie farmers in PK. But now they raid low or mid geared players by one or two hits. So you should pay dollars or try find ways to farm more. Because you have no chance against them. I insist that the game should keep close between the difference between low and high geared players. These are my toughts. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickan Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Patrick said: I think you are playing with a team and many PCs in the game. Because if you play with a pc and out of a team, this "getting a +6 new set" is very hard. I believe this is not true at all. You can literally go Treant/Ancient SOLO and make 35-40m an hour. +6 Pieces are sitting at 250-300m, so with some time and effort you can have that set easily in less than 1 week. On the other hand if you want to FARM those pieces with FULL party its going to make you around 60m in 5 hours at Balrog. This is the reason you see ZERO 8 man parties trying to farm together. 8 man parties also bring PK and activity to CZ while the solo farm is more Genie/AFK. Edited July 31, 2020 by Sickan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david4244 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Sickan said: I believe this is not true at all. You can literally go Treant/Ancient SOLO and make 35-40m an hour. +6 Pieces are sitting at 250-300m, so with some time and effort you can have that set easily in less than 1 week. On the other hand if you want to FARM those pieces with FULL party its going to make you around 60m in 5 hours at Balrog. This is the reason you see ZERO 8 man parties trying to farm together. 8 man parties also bring PK and activity to CZ while the solo farm is more Genie/AFK. This. It's really not hard if you are farming treants or genieing outside cz. The problem is: Farming with 8 men parties only worth it if all the 8 char is urs and genieing, otherwise farming booro / balog, anything and getting 1/8 of the drops, it's better to just go treants alone. Edited July 31, 2020 by david4244 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Sickan, 5 saat önce yazdı: I believe this is not true at all. You can literally go Treant/Ancient SOLO and make 35-40m an hour. +6 Pieces are sitting at 250-300m, so with some time and effort you can have that set easily in less than 1 week. On the other hand if you want to FARM those pieces with FULL party its going to make you around 60m in 5 hours at Balrog. This is the reason you see ZERO 8 man parties trying to farm together. 8 man parties also bring PK and activity to CZ while the solo farm is more Genie/AFK. i haven't been able to do it yet (ı died more than 10 times at the spot in half an hour.) One 80 mid geared rogue can turn your farming life into the hell. And i believe that raiders are the only ones left in the game now. So I no longer believe that new players will join ApexKO. We will monitor the decreasing count of players in events/pks every day (Sad but true). Nevertheless, i'll suggest that spot to anyone who needs more farm/gear in the game. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluka Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 43 minutes ago, Patrick said: i haven't been able to do it yet (ı died more than 10 times at the spot in half an hour.) One 80 mid geared rogue can turn your farming life into the hell. And i believe that raiders are the only ones left in the game now. So I no longer believe that new players will join ApexKO. We will monitor the decreasing count of players in events/pks every day (Sad but true). Nevertheless, i'll suggest that spot to anyone who needs more farm/gear in the game. Thanks I'm pretty sure they meant EMC / Luferson spot of Treant / Ancient where no one will raid you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashew Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 One of the main problems is the nerf of things.. Lower drop resporn and coin but let the select few get advantage so the first lot of players made fast good money and got gear where the rest are being left behind struggling . It makes it hard and not enjoyable to try farm in bowl xp or pk for someone who knows they are way behind in items because they couldn't get macro genie in the high end GB drop spots. The Bowl and PK is great but needs something to keep ppl interested and wanting to take the risk being there with all these guys with +8 +1 items and acces on and millions of gbs behind them to get even more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) Baluka, 20 saat önce yazdı: I'm pretty sure they meant EMC / Luferson spot of Treant / Ancient where no one will raid you. Don't be sure mate. I've tried it and got only 1.5m (only a tour for selling weapons) in 30 minutes (with archer on 3x Treeant spot +10% dc flash). I didn't expect that i can farm 35-40m from that spot in 1h. But i tried it for you. lmao Edited August 1, 2020 by Patrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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